Green Party candidates on the record: “Is Hezbollah a terrorist organization”?
This is the situation Ms May was in – and she didn’t say anything. It’s not enough to condemn missiles overseas and keep mum about racists ten feet from where you are speaking. She has harsher words for Jack Layton than for people singing about Jew killing outside the Israeli consulate.
That’s moral failure. And that’s what she refused to adress.
I’m writing to you for a reply on a controversy surrounding your leader and Green Party policy toward Israel.Recently, photos emerged on the web showing Elizabeth May appearing at a peace rally in Toronto at which a sizable number of very vocal Hezbollah supporters were present.Ms. May’s recent statement has not directly addressed the main issue – the legitimacy of support for Hezbollah and a politician’s duty to condemn it’s supporters wherever they meet them. This is very significant for Jewish Canadians as Hezbollah is explicitly dedicated to exterminating the world’s only Jewish state. It’s leader, whose picture was on display at that rally, has clearly stated his feelings toward peace: “our struggle will end only when this entity [Israel] is obliterated. We recognize no treaty with it, no ceasefire, and no peace agreements.”Do you believe that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, and would you condemn those Canadians who support it? Do you believe that Ms. May should have directly condemned those Canadians at the rally who were singing the Hezbollah battle anthem, or waving the machine gun emblazoned flag of Hezbollah?
- Elizabeth May – Central Nova
- Andre Papadimitriou – York South Weston
- Russ Aegard – Thunder Bay – Rainy River
- Georgina Wilcock -Don Valley West
- Frances Coates -Ottawa West-Nepean
- Frédéric Pouyot -Hull-Aylmer
- Ard Van Leeuwen -Dufferin-Caledon
- Stephen LaFrenie -Trinity-Spadina
- Amy Collard -Halton
- Luke Macmichael -Sault Ste. Marie
- Marc Payette -Saint Boniface
- David Rawnsley -S-D-SG
- Darryl Whetter -Halifax
- Marnie Mellish -Burlington
- Paul Maillet -Ottawa Orleans
- John Cowling -Perth Wellington
- Wayne Clements -Don Valley East
- Brian Timlick -Charleswood-St.James-Assiniboia
- Cathy MacLellan -KW
- Shawn Willick -Niagara Falls Riding
- Sharon Howarth -Toronto-Danforth
- Monica Jarabek -London West
- Brent Bouteiller -Wellington Halton Hills
- Peter Graham – Lac-Saint-Louis
- Peter Ellis – Simcoe Gray
- Mikhel Harilaid – Ajax Pickering
- Mike Nagy – Guelph
- Veronik Sansoucy – Jeanne Le Ber
- Charlie Howatt – Portage-Lisgar
- David Hart Dyke – Hamilton East-Stoney Creek
- Norbert Koehl – Thornhill
- Trey Capnerhurst – Edmonton East
- Philip Stone – Vancouver Island North
- Peter Johnston – Edmonton – St. Albert
- Kevin Dodd – Medicine hat
- Mike Carr – Vancouver East
- Jane Thrall – Edmonton-Strathcona
- David Blair – South Surrey etc…
- Jared McCollum – MacLeod
- Dan Grice – Vancouver-Quadra
- Aden Murphy – Westlock – St. Paul
- William Munsey – Vegreville-Wainwright
- Adam Saab – Victoria
- David Allan Hrushka – Mill Woods-Beaumont
- Mark Pajot – Bramalea-Gore-Malton
- Wendy Walker – Edmonton Spruce-Grove
- Doug Anderson – Whitby-Oshawa
- Lynette Tremblay – Ahuntsic
- Eric Donovan – Calgary Centre-North
- Michael Munday – Halifax West
- David J Parker – Edmonton Centre
- Nina Erfani – Edmonton-Sherwood Park
- Rod Brindamour Port Moody etc…
- Huguette Allen – Okanagan Shuswap
- Michael Wolfe – Richmond East
- Jean-Pierre Ducasse – Saskatoon-Humboldt
We prepared a statement. When I spoke at the peace rally I condemned Hezbollah missiles being fired at Israel. I also criticized Israeli bombing of Lebanese targets not associated with Hezbollah.
E
Elizabeth May
Green Party, Central Nova
Green party, York South Weston
In answer to your questions, I would condemn any violent acts that the democratically-elected Hezbollah government commits as well as any violent acts the democratically-elected Israeli government does to Palestine. I would hope Canadians do not support either group’s violent tactics but I will not condemn either the Israelis, or the Palestinians; only the violence that both group uses. If rallyers want to support the violence of either the Hezbollah government or the Israeli government, no matter how distasteful it is to peaceful people, it is their right as a Canadian to organize and protest/support peacefully.
Thank you for your email and your interest in the political process,
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I just wanted to express how disappointed I was to find out how you printed people’s answers without extending the courtesy of informing them. I still would have responded, I don’t shy away from any issue, but after reading your blog, it’s apparent that you like to spin a lot of information. It kind of reminded me a lot of Bill O’Reilly…
Anyway, I loved the one sentence headline you gave me….you completely ignored the whole point and printed what you only wanted to read out of the article. You have the skills necessary to work at Fox News…..
It would have been “Fair and Balanced” to at least offer “We should work with both the Palestinian and Israeli government” or “We should work with Hezbollah and the Israeli government in order to achieve peace” or something more accurate since all I care about is peace. It seems like you have a lot of anger/sadness in your blog as you say a lot of hurtful things about a lot of people.
I really thought you would have appreciated a candidate taking time out of their busy schedule to address your concern….
Hope you find happiness some day….
Take care,
Russ Aegard
Green Party of Canada candidate
Thunder Bay – Rainy River riding
Georgina Wilcock
Green Party, Don Valley West
Hezbollah is a terrorist organization
Dear Mr. Jago
The presence of Hezbollah demonstrators at the rally that Ms May was at does not in any way mean that she nor the Green Party supports a Terrorist group like Hezbollah. We are a peaceful democratic Country and as such all people’s voices are heard. I agree that a peace rally this is innapropriate. It is unfortunate that this did occur at a peaceful demonstration.
Canada and the Green Party recognize Hezbollah as a terrorist organization.
We feel that the conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians is often viewed as intractable and irresolvable. This is a complex and crucial conflict to understand. It is an unfortunate and continued source of tension for many in the Middle East and around the world. It should be clear that continued support and use of military or insurgency strategies will not bring about an end to the conflict. The cycle of violence, loss of life and desecration of human rights must no longer be allowed to continue.
The Green Party of Canada believes that any effort aimed only at one side in this conflict will not end the violent responses that exacerbate human suffering. Canada’s role in the Middle East should be to reduce tensions, find working solutions and uphold international humanitarian law, not to take sides in this chronic conflict. We must work towards a mutually acceptable compromise that will achieve a lasting peace between, and among, the Israelis and Palestinians.
We support a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that addresses the security, economic, and religious concerns of both sides.
Second-track diplomatic efforts are needed to build constructive relationships between the two communities are required. Continued dialogue will build community support for the negotiated peace
agreement, and will ease implementation and ensure that it does not break down from pressures within the Palestinian and Israeli communities.
We would support a two-state solution that adheres to pre-1967 borders and also seeks to incorporate an international plan for stimulating economic prosperity in both nations. We would call for a stop to the
killings and adherence to international law. The Canadian government has to press for bi-literal and multi-lateral peace talks involving Palestinians and Israelis. Call on Arab countries to use their influence to broker an agreement between Hamas and the Palestinian National Authority to facilitate the promotion of peace amongst the competing Palestinian interests. Call for an end to the collective siege of Gaza so that medical and humanitarian aid can be provided.
Sincerely
Frances Coates
Green Party of Canada
Ottawa West-Nepean
Hezbollah is a terrorist organization & not the only one …
The Green party is a party in favor of peace and respect of (true, proportional..) democracy and respect of diversity. So I do not see how the Green Party and its leader would support any movement that promotes wars or terror. As a matter of fact, Hezbollah is not the only terrorist organization that we should be wary of, as we should do something to boycott other military organizations or regimes (including legitimized government sponsored terrorism) that rule using terror, whether they be from the right or from the left. Unfortunately, Canada is doing little against too many ruthless regimes in the world, and this does not seem to bother very much the other political parties.
Frédéric Pouyot
Candidat Parti vert, Hull-Aylmer Green Party Candidate
Hezbollah is one of many “intransigent” organizations
Thanks for your note. Yes, I understand that the event was mis-characterized by some as a “Hezbollah event”. The Green Party issued a press release which you can find here http://www.greenparty.ca/en/releases/23.09.2008 . I take it these are the comments you’ve referred to in your note below?
One of our party’s founding principles is “non-violence” so your comments fall on fertile ground. Yes, I condemn the intransigence of any organization’s or country’s denial of Israel’s right to exist. I understand full well why this has been an historic stumbling block to peace negotiations in the Middle East and why there will be no progress made until that right is recognized.
Ard Van Leeuwen
Dufferin-Caledon
This is a difficult question and will try to define the different aspects of your question. You are referring to controversy over an event that happened two years ago at which I was not present. I encountered a very unpleasant series of blogs in researching this. I do not associate these blogs with your inquiry or opinion but since I was not at the event this is the only way of investigating.
Green Party of Canada, Trinity-Spadina
I disagree with Hezbollah supporters
The Green Party of Canada is committed to working for peace in all areas of the world. As such, we are opposed to terrorism, genocide and any other form of hatred, how ever it is expressed. The statements made by the people representing Hezbollah at the peace rally are not in keeping with Green Party ideals, and I would not support any group making statements of this nature.
Amy Collard
Green Party of Canada
Candidate for Halton
amy.collard@greenparty.ca
Don’t criticize Hezbollah supporters as it would be impolite.
Yes, we are against any terrorist or pro-war groups and I believe we should speak out as much as we can against any groups that are against peace or are racist or discrimatory in any fasion. However, there are times when it is appropriate and times when it is not and we will always do our best to show respect and harmory whenever we can while still speaking out for peace and the rights of people. Sometimes giving the negative groups too much attention is just what they want and ignoring them can be a better way to get the message of peace across. I know the green party and it’s leader Mrs May will do everything thing in it’s power to move the world towards peace in every way.
Thanks for your question. I hope we can all work together to achieve our mutual goals.
Luke Macmichael
Green Party, Sault Ste. Marie
Elizabeth May’s was right not to condemn the Hezbollah supporters she was speaking to
Our leader Ms. May attended a peace rally because non-violence is a basic principle of all green parties of the world. If others attending the same public rally have other motives it is not a reflection on Ms. May or the Green Party of Canada. I see no controversy. The Green Party does not support terrorist organizations.
The Green Party of Canada believes that any effort aimed only at one side in this conflict will not end the violent responses that exacerbate human suffering. Canada’s role in the Middle East should be to reduce tensions, find working solutions and uphold international humanitarian law, not to take sides in this chronic conflict. We must work towards a mutually acceptable compromise that will achieve a lasting peace between, and among, the Israelis and Palestinians.
The Green Party supports a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict that addresses the security, economic, and religious concerns of the both sides.
Second-track diplomatic efforts to build constructive relationships between the two communities are required. Continued dialogue will build community support for the negotiated peace agreement, and will ease implementation and ensure that it does not break down from pressures within the Palestinian and Israeli communities.
Green Party MPs will:
· Support a two-state solution to the Israel- Palestine conflict that adheres to pre-1967 borders and also seeks to incorporate an international plan for stimulating economic prosperity in both nations.
· Call on both sides to immediately stop the killing of civilians and adhere to international law.
· Encourage the Canadian government to press for a mutually agreed upon honest broker to engage in bi-literal and multi-lateral peace talks involving Palestinians and Israelis.
· Call on Arab countries to use their influence to broker an agreement between Hamas and the Palestinian National Authority to facilitate the promotion of peace amongst the competing Palestinian interests.
· Call for an end to the collective siege of Gaza so that medical and humanitarian aid can be provided.
· Actively support the efforts of civil society groups working for peace, human rights, and justice in the region.
Regards,
Marc Payette
Candidate for Saint Boniface
Green Party of Canada
Nasrallah could be a peacemaker
Green Party Candidate S-D-SG
Hezbollah supporters were not present at the rally
The Green Party wants to work for peace. Reports of Ms. May’s company at that rally are inaccurate.
For details, go to http://www.greenparty.ca/en/releases/23.09.2008
which states:
23.09.2008
Elizabeth May clears the air OTTAWA – Contrary to rumours circulating on the internet, Elizabeth May,
Leader of the Green Party of Canada did not appear at a Hezbollah event two years ago.
August 12, 2006, Ms. May did speak at a peace rally in Toronto along with Jewish and Arab Canadians to call for an end to the violence then raging in the Middle East.
In her remarks she strongly condemned Hezbollah for launching rocket attacks in to Israel as well as Israel for the bombing of Lebanon.
The Green Party of Canada supports peaceful resolution acceptable to all parties in the Middle East.
Darryl Whetter
Green Party, Halifax
Actually Elizabeth May did address this bogus issue. I know her personally too. She asked me to run in Burlington. See her comments on www.greenparty.ca
Marnie Mellish
Green Party Burlington
Thank you for you email on the subject. You should be well assured that I understand the sensitivities of the subject. I have particular experience in defence, being a retired Colonel in 2001 after a 33 year career, a Director of Defence Ethics at one point and certainly understand first hand the suffering that conflict brings. Since my retirement I have managed a successful consultancy in organizational ethics and worked both domestically and internationally. I hope to bring to the Green Party a particular passion for Social Responsibility, International Affairs, Defence, and Human Rights.
I feel it particularly important in how we frame the situation in the mid east if our mutual objective is peace. If so, how can we work together. Dialogue of hate and recriminations serve little purpose other than to propagate the mimetic structures already in place. This begs the question, right or wrong, do we want to pass on cultures of blessing or hate to our children?
We are totally committed to the Green Party values of non-violence, human rights, and justice. We realize that the Palestine and Israeli issue is very very complex and will be difficult to find a peaceful solution. So how can we help as Canadians? What role can we play?
I have answered various inquiries on the subject and always strive to promote peace, and help in a manner in which Canadians can reclaim the two Nobel peace prizes Canadians have shared for peacekeeping in the past. I repeat that we stand for a belief that the ethic of care is paramount in this endless and tragic situation. The suffering has gone on long enough and sometimes we feel that the best we can do is to add our voice to the cry for peace.
I am dedicated to human rights, to helping solve this tragic situation, and not to the advantage or disadvantage of either side, either the Palestinians or Israelis. We believe in human rights for ALL in this conflict. We understand that Canada does not have the power to solve this by itself, but believe that we must not refuse to do what we can do. We are another voice for human values. As a minimum, I feel it appropriate to advocate that ALL parties in such conflict zones strive to:
* STOP THE VIOLENCE AND KILLING on both sides
* CARE FOR THE VICTIMS ON BOTH SIDES
* FROM A POSTURE OF canadIAn NEUTRALITY, do what WE can to FACILITATE DIPLOMACY AND DIALOGUE TOWARDS A POLITICAL SOLUTION.
This means talking to everyone. To stop the killing I would be willing to talk to anyone on either side. Life is just too precious to do otherwise. If all parties act in good faith with a desire for real and enduring peace we can get somewhere. Ultimately, you and the Palestinians will create your own solution, be it a two-state solution or something else you can agree on. Whether, crimes committed will ever be brought to justice is anyone’s guess. I do however submit that the ethic of care is far more important than the ethic of justice at this point.
On all the issue you have, this should not be about seeking advantage on the part of either side, but about the future of your children. Let us all raise our sense of identity above nationalism and religious differences, to simply that of human being, where we are all brothers and sisters. Then let us make a just and caring peace.
My side and that of the Green Party is real peace and non-violence, and you must believe that our motives are wholly humanitarian. There has been far too much suffering and death already. Surely we can agree on this, and not get side tracked into who is perceived as supporting whom. We support peace and non-violence.
With sincere regards and hopes for peace
Paul
Paul Maillet
Ottawa Orleans Green candidate
www.vote-green.ca/paul.maillet
We don’t answer questions from outside the riding
We have received your email and are looking into this matter and will get back to you asap. We have found previous emailers have included information that informs us that they are residents of this riding. We are
interested in knowing if you reside in Ottawa West Nepean riding.
Peter
Frances CoastesCampaign Mgr
Ottawa West Nepean
We don’t answer questions from outside the riding
Where do you live Mr. Jago?
John Cowling
Green Party, Perth Wellington
This was responded to on the Greenparty.ca website as follows:
Elizabeth May clears the air
OTTAWA – Contrary to rumours circulating on the internet, Elizabeth May, Leader of the Green Party of Canada did not appear at a Hezbollah event two years ago.
August 12, 2006, Ms. May did speak at a peace rally in Toronto along with Jewish and Arab Canadians to call for an end to the violence then raging in the Middle East.
In her remarks she strongly condemned Hezbollah for launching rocket attacks in to Israel as well as Israel for the bombing of Lebanon.
The Green Party of Canada supports peaceful resolution acceptable to all parties in the Middle East.
I hope this helps.
Wayne Clements
Candidate – Don Valley East
Here is the official response which I fully support.
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/releases/23.09.2008
Sincerely, Brian Timlick
Charleswood-St.James-Assiniboia
Thank you for your question Mr. Jago:
Here is the press release from Elizabeth May regarding your concerns:
Elizabeth May clears the air
OTTAWA – Contrary to rumours circulating on the internet, Elizabeth May, Leader of the Green Party of Canada did not appear at a Hezbollah event two years ago.
August 12, 2006, Ms. May did speak at a peace rally in Toronto along with Jewish and Arab Canadians to call for an end to the violence then raging in the Middle East.
In her remarks she strongly condemned Hezbollah for launching rocket attacks in to Israel as well as Israel for the bombing of Lebanon.
The Green Party of Canada supports peaceful resolution acceptable to all parties in the Middle East.
Cathy MacLellan KW Federal Green Party Candidate
I am going to include a statement from Ottawa regarding this issue:
OTTAWA – Contrary to rumours circulating on the internet, Elizabeth May, Leader of the Green Party of Canada did not appear at a Hezbollah event two years ago.
August 12, 2006, Ms. May did speak at a peace rally in Toronto along with Jewish and Arab Canadians to call for an end to the violence then raging in the Middle East.
In her remarks she strongly condemned Hezbollah for launching rocket attacks in to Israel as well as Israel for the bombing of Lebanon.
The Green Party of Canada supports peaceful resolution acceptable to all parties in the Middle East.
– It seems that some other person or party may be trying to smear Ms. May with such unfounded propoganda, and I am disappointed that any person, group or party would endeavour to incite such terrible reaction for political reasons. The problems facing peace in the Middle East are EXTREMELY serious, and demand serious attention, not inflamed rhetoric.
I can tell you that Non-Violence is one of the Green Party’s six core principles, and therefore, terrorism and brutality of any sort is abhorred by this party, regardless of who may be the instigator or their position of power.
Please look at this policy specifically, along with our other core values on our site, www.greenparty.ca. This will alleviate any concerns you may have about the fundamental values and policies of our party.
Shawn Willick, Federal Candidate, Niagara Falls Riding.
Check with the Party
The Green Party of Canada supports peaceful resolution acceptable to all parties in the Middle East.
Monica Jarabek
Green Party, London West
Here is the press release:
OTTAWA – Contrary to rumours circulating on the internet, Elizabeth May, Leader of the Green Party of Canada did not appear at a Hezbollah event two years ago.
August 12, 2006, Ms. May did speak at a peace rally in Toronto along with Jewish and Arab Canadians to call for an end to the violence then raging in the Middle East.
In her remarks she strongly condemned Hezbollah for launching rocket attacks in to Israel as well as Israel for the bombing of Lebanon.
The Green Party of Canada supports peaceful resolution acceptable to all parties in the Middle East.
Brent Bouteiller
Green Party, Wellington Halton Hills
Thank you for taking the time to write about the controversy surrounding Elizabeth May.
Below is the statement from the Green Party of Canada’s website,
you can also find it at: http://www.greenparty.ca/en/releases/23.09.2008
I sincerely hope this answers your concerns regarding Elizabeth’s integrity.
I encourage you to continue to listen and watch, particularly in the televised debates on October 2.
If you have further questions please contact me and I can have Mr. Graham contact you to discuss them.
Barbara Dalziel
Campaign Manager to Peter Graham
Lac-Saint-Louis
No position
I do not support the shooting of anyone on any side, and I want the U.N. to be strong in being peacekeepers, and for us to be peacekeepers as well. Only 56 Canadian UN Peacekeepers existed recently, the rest serving in afghanistan. Until we get rid of the Conservatives and bring in the U.N., you have a problem.
Peter Ellis
Simcoe-Gray
Will not answer on the record
If you have a chance – give me a call mon or tuesday.
416-839-9255
Would love to talk with you about this.
MH
Mikhel Harilaid
Ajax Pickering
Hezbollah supporters are welcome at a peace rally
Would kindly supply the link to the website where you saw these photos? This will help me to understand the content within which your questions are posed. Thank you for your help on this.
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Easy answer.
Just because specific people show up to a rally where E or any of us are speaking means nothing to our association. Just because questions are asked does not automatically mean they are either legitimate or worthy of answering. My answer to them would be
just that, ‘everyone is welcome to a PEACE rally, we do not stop people from attending public events and we were speaking to Green Party values only to whomever attended to listen.’ I personally would not address the rest of the question, it is leading.
Mike Nagy
Candidate
The Green Party – Guelph
Condemn both Israel and Hezbollah
Contrary to rumours on the internet, Elizabeth May, Leader of the Green Party of Canada did not appear at a Hezbollah event two years ago.
August 12, 2006, Ms. May did speak at a peace rally in Toronto along with Jewish and Arab Canadians to call for an end to the violence then raging in the Middle East.
In her remarks she strongly condemned Hezbollah for launching rocket attacks in to Israel as well as Israel for the bombing of Lebanon.
The Green Party of Canada supports peaceful resolution acceptable to all parties in the Middle East.
Green regards,
Veronik Sansoucy
GPC Jeanne Le Ber
please go to greenparty.ca and read Elizabeth May’s response to the allegations thrown at her.
you will find the different topics to the lower left side of the home page.
if you can’t find it, email me again and i will send it to you
thanks,
charlie howatt
green party candidate
Portage-Lsgar
Since I wasn’t there myself, and have little trust in second-hand accounts of such situations, I won’t comment directly on your assertions. I will, however, refer them to people who have better knowledge of what occurred.
I know Elizabeth May, and I can state with confidence she is a thoroughly decent person who has no time for those who cultivate hatred and violence.
Thank you for contacting me with your concerns. I hope this message is satisfactory.
Sincerely,
David Hart Dyke
Green Party Candidate
Hamilton East – Stoney Creek
Please visit the greenparty.ca website for clarification on conflicting stories about the event you refer to. There is a press release dated Sept 23 on the home page.
The Green Party and I strongly condemn terrorism and terrorist organizations.
Regards,
Norbert Koehl
Green Party Candidate for Thornhill
Many of our candidates have received this email. We do talk to each other, you know. The Greens are a collective… Since we are both very busy ppl, I’m going to assume that you are actually in my riding and not wasting my time.
Obviously, this entire controversy is a hoax designed as a smear campaign against Elizabeth. The Green Party has already officially addressed this utterly outrageous claims, and anyone who pursues these ludicrous suggestions should only receive the silence they so justly deserve.
If this is the best the opposition can come up with, I say bring it on. What unbelievable suggestion will it be next? Live puppy consumption? Satanic cults? Roommates with Hitler? I look forward to their fiction. Surprisingly, it isn’t very inventive or even slightly believable…
Thank you for your concern on this matter, and your research in pursuing it so vigorously.
[follow up email]
No. Just you. You’re special. I know who you are.
Respect is always given until it is proved to be disadvantageous or unwarranted. That fits this situation to a ‘T’.
Spam and trolls can exist even in election questions… And I buy them in my non-candidate capacity even less.
Have a lovely life.
Trey Capnerhurst
Green party candidate for Edmonton East
What do you think Robert?
The Green Party is based on principles of peace, equality, environmental health and sustainable economic prosperity. Does that sound like we advocate terrorism to you?
I don’t think so.
We also believe that we could be four times as efficient with our resources and that includes saving time wasted on answering questions that attempt to make issues out of non-issues for other political gain.
Should Canadians at last see the wisdom of our policies above the trap of the old parties and elect a green government I can assure you that our efforts will go toward making the country and the world a more peaceful and efficient place.
Have a good day.
Philip Stone
Candidate Vancouver Island North
I condemn all acts of terror, whoever carries them out. My feelings in the matter coincide exactly with those of Colonel Maillet, whose views
you recieved in a reply to your question earlier in the day.
Yours most Sincerely,
Peter Johnston.
GPC candidate for Ed/St Albert.
Extremists should be dealt with through the legal system
What does hezobala have to do with sustainable development and climate change????????????
[update]
All extremists, religious/environmental will be dealt with through the
Canadian judicial system.
Kevin Dodd
Dear Mr. Jago, I have been informed that it is not true that Elizabeth May went to a Hezbollah rally. Below is a press release about the matter. Thank you for your interest. Mike Carr
OTTAWA – Contrary to rumours circulating on the internet, Elizabeth May, Leader of the Green Party of Canada did not appear at a Hezbollah event two years ago. August 12, 2006, Ms. May did speak at a peace rally in Toronto along with Jewish and Arab Canadians to call for an end to the violence then raging in the Middle East. In her remarks she strongly condemned Hezbollah for launching rocket attacks in to Israel as well as Israel for the bombing of Lebanon. The Green Party of Canada supports peaceful resolution acceptable to all parties in the Middle East.
Mike Carr
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/releases/23.09.2008
This is our official statement in this regard.
Cheers,
Jane Thrall
Hezbollah is a terrorist organization
Thank you for your inquiry. Hezbollah is considered a terrorist organization by Canada , not by all countries but support by Canadians for that organization will be subject to Canadian law. As you probably know, the Green Party values non-violence, human rights, and justice. Consequently the Green Party urges peaceful resolution to conflict that results in a peace both ‘sides’ can live with and grow into. I realize that the Palestine/Lebanon and Israeli issue is a very complex and historical and it will be challenging to find a solution. This is a tragic and ongoing situation that serves no one – solutions must be found. Violence and terrorism are not acceptable conflict resolution tools – they haven’t worked thus far, can never be condoned and will not be.
Canada does not have the power to solve this by itself, but can be a voice for human values and the potential inherent to a peaceful and kind future.
I have 25 years experience as Deputy Director, and in various other roles ( government, enforcement, protective services, military, investigation, mediation and social services) that have given me the understanding that great conflict can not be resolved through more conflict (it is like throwing gas to put out a fire in your own house), that doesn’t work – solutions will take a leap, leadership and brave steps.
I have not seen the photo that shows Elizabeth May at a public event with Hezbollah individuals, but I can assure you the Green Party does not support terrorism, in fact abhors it and supports the rights of all nations.
So in answer to your questions, the first part is clear, Hezbollah is a terrorist organization and clearly involved in a long lasting unresolved/ineffectual conflict. Q2 – I wasn’t there so I have no idea if Elizabeth May knew the song or the meaning of the flag – knowing her I can guarantee she would not condone and far less likely support a terrorist organization. I don’t think you could find one Green Party candidate that would. We are the anti-thesis of that.
You have drawn attention to a significant global issue, and one the Green Party and most Canadians care deeply about. The situation in that area has been a tragedy for decades. The hopes of many are that peace and resolution will calm the hatred and anger that do not serve future generations.
Operationally, the well being of each nation must be preserved and conflict ceased and replaced with sincere work towards peace. Terrorism, mindless violence should be taken off the map of global development.
It’s mid-night (0:00) here in BC but you asked the question so now you have a straight forward albeit quick answer.
Peace
David Blair
604.514.2217
Let me do my best to put forward my position for you. First in this conflict there has been tragedy on both sides and it has been very bloody. What saddens me most is that we may never achieve peace or any sort of settlement as long as the first issue is about how wrong or evil the one side is over the other. Now I have not chosen a side and will not. I am the side of peace and peace will only be achieved by those who can let go of the pain, suffering and hatred so that there is room for compromise. Now this may make you very angry and disappointed but there will be no solutions for the middle east as long as we must first determine blame and choose a victor. We need to support both sides in finding the courage and forgiveness to find a solution and compromise that will enable a win-win for both side. That is peace and there is no other way to achieve it. I am not saying it is easy but I will not choose a side and fuel the fire. I would rather choose peace and hope for a beneficial resolution for the people of the middle east.
Thank you for requesting my opinion and I hope it answers your honest question.
Sincerely, Dr. Jared McCollum
Hezbollah is a terrorist organization
Hi Robert,
I cannot find you on my voters list. Can you please clarify which part of my riding you live in?
[update]
As long as Hezbollah continues to be involved with rocket attacks on civilians, then they should be continued to be classified as a terrorist organization and any Canadian convicted of providing financial support to them should be liable to be jailed for up to 14 years. As an MP, I would continue to support the legislation.
I am hopeful that the election of Tzipi Livni and the end of the George Bush era will be a tipping point for the region, as we all want to ensure Israel has a safe existence and for hostilities to permanently cease in the region.
As for the rally, I commend Elizabeth for her statements on Hezbollah.
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/releases/23.09.2008
-Dan Grice
I appreciate your question and concern on this issue. As it appears that you are mass-emailing all the candidates in the country, I’d like to know whether this is a survey or a one-on-one question. I would love to discuss this issue with you, I would just like to know that you actually want my response.
[follow up]
Sorry, I was just reading on the web and came across your blog. I’ll put this simply: why not state that you were a blogger and that this was a survey? We’re all fans of Candid Camera, but one assumes that political journalists, even amateurs, would have the integrity and sportsmanship to talk honestly.
Please email me back if you would actually like to discuss this issue.
Thanks,
Thanks, hope to hear back from you,
Aden Murphy
Thanks for your e-mail. As you can imagine, I am inundated with such requests as well as requests to make appearances around my very large constituency.
If you give me your phone number, I will be happy to contact you and we can go through your questions at your leisure. The more I can do by phone while on the road, the more I can accomplish in my constituency and I am sure you can appreciate the need for someone who believes in democracy to reach as many constituents as possible.
I thank you for being involved in the process and look forward to speaking with you.
William Munsey
Green Party of Canada
Vegreville-Wainwright
P.O. Box 339
New Sarepta, AB
T0B 3M0
No comment until after the election
I have a connection with this part of the world and I will not respond to these sensitive matters in an email. If you like you can come see me in person. However, I am extremely busy during this election and may not have much time. I will be happy to set aside some time after the 14th.
Thank you,
Adam Saab
I highly appreciate your email. I am a student, with a wife, and toddler, and most of my time is volunteered to those priorities. I was not at the rally, and I do not have the time to read all the GPC email forums on the multitude of subjects. Therefore it is very unfair to make a specific opinion. What I can do as a personal leader is that I can communicate my view points of how leadership roles best handle uncomfortable situations.
In the Green Party we are allow to agree to disagree with any 1 or more of the Party’s Platform or speech.
My personal self and leadership: I am a Jewish Christian since the age of 3 years old. I read the Old Testament and the New Testament, as well as diversity of other Religious subjects. My personal attitude is peace on earth, and a non violence approach. Iran’s leader call for Israel’s full elimination or Hezbollah’s statement of Israel extermination is a violence threat.
When violence does exist; the individual or nation (Israel) does have a right to defend itself for preservation. Violence is never tolerated by God or by Civil Humans as there is no positive outcome. Jewish, Muslim, and Christian all know of “thou shalt not kill,” which is Genesis Chapter 1. Those 3 religious sections also know of Father Abraham.
I know Global & Religious History on a very decent meek level. I know Native Canadians used to cultivate this land, just as the Jewish People did with Israel. When Europeans expanded to Canada, and Palestine expanded to Israel, the end goal was possession of land of a place to call home. I know that Native Canadians to receive 60% business programs verses Canadian Europeans 40% business programs. I know Canada has to have in some areas a better system to assist the Natives. History has taught all of us that Natives used to Cultivate Canada, and Jewish used to Cultivate Israel. The old Philistine (current day Gaza Strip) was prominently Palestinians. Truly the Gaza Strip should belong to Palestinians; Israel belongs to the Jewish People, and Canada use to belong to Native Canadians. Natives truly do govern themselves on the reserves, but they do require a lot of assistance from Canada, and therefore they must rely on Canada for preservation. I am also 50% Ukrainian. 25% Native – Seneca Tribe // 25% English, Scottish, and Irish. Israel can govern itself without Palestine.
Archeologists also have taught us where ancient cities used to be. If a certain area used to be apart of King Solomon’s Kingdom then yes that Land should belong to the Jewish State of Israel. Israel also attempted land for peace. When Israel returned a piece of land of the Gaza Strip back over to Palestinians, the Palestinians within a 12 hour occupation used rocket launchers targeting Israel. Israel does up hold attempts of peace, where as Violent Palestinians do not. Israel took over that land again in self defense.
In relation to any Leader of any Nation that holds up a gun for fear motivation (Saddam Hussein), or a leader speaks of Extermination, or Genocide is a sign of violence towards death that will never have civil negotiation skills. I respect any individual leader that is attempting to try to speak to violent individuals for a peace gain while at the same time that leader also considers what to say to a group of individuals who support violence. Leaders do get targeted for violence, abuse, and uncivil factors as well as being shot. With out a doubt Ms. May would have that same feeling of being shot by any side.
I was not at that rally, as I am at school during the day, then toddler duty around supper time, then evening studies. I do not have the time to read all of the GPC email messages that do occur, and I cannot place or I will not place a personal opinion as I was not there. Whether 2 and a half years as a Candidate , or while I am at school or in my community I do get verbal abuse from uneducated and uncivil individuals in which I feel that I would be violently attacked. Even my class note taking goes missing if I take a bathroom break; during lunch time, or other times. Their motive is that I am a vegan; I do call myself a Jewish Christian Pentecostal Vegan. People don’t like difference and feel that I should join all of them but I cannot participate in going to 10,000 different Christian Churches or the multitude of Religions on Sunday. I do have civil associates from diverse backgrounds.
I do believe in Gods unconditional love, accountability towards us, mercy, forgiveness, as long as we live and learn to evolve to be better. I know how I would feel trying to speak to violent leaders that do not understand compromise in negotiations. I do believe in other Religions ancient motivational speakers like Buddha that tried to evolve their people out of Chaos, and towards being one with God and Earth. I do know that all Religions have the basic factors of “Do not Kill,” as a good philosophy towards civil psychology.
Again what I can do is support my personal opinion of how I would handle factors as a leader without personally attacking Israel, Palestine, Ms. May, or any other Political Party. My role as a leader is to be the best. Being a role model requires to master self, leadership, communication, solutions, resolutions, and evolution towards a better Riding, Municipal, Province, and Nation. The more positive role models in this world the better all of us will be!
I hope this answers your questions towards resolution, and evolving understanding. Please feel free at any time to ask me any questions without hesitation!
[follow up]
Ø ‘everyone is welcome to a PEACE rally, we do not stop people from attending public events and we were speaking to Green Party values only to whomever attended to listen.’ <
David Allan Hrushka
GPC Edmonton: Mill Woods-Beaumont
“Help …”
I got a hot potatoe here – any one have any advice on how to respond?
My gut instinct is to approach with caution and generally state we support peace…etc…
Help…
Mark Pajot
Green Party Candidate
Bramalea-Gore-Malton
www.MarkPajot.com
Wow – important question! First of all I ‘d like to begin from a place of non-condemanationcondemanation of any people’s. Part of our democratic process is the right to Speak Freely without fear of retaliation in Canada, whether I agree with them or not and I stand by that right … Having said that from a personal place – I have watched CBC & CTV’s coverage of Hezbolla’s past attacks on Israel and have been appalled by what I’ve witnessed. I have watched our government and others stand by while innocent people die on both sides – I personally do not condone the obliteration of any people and or Nation. Nor do I support suicide attacks as a means of financial aid to the surviving families of those that commit this act of perceived martyrdom
The Green Party is clear about a peaceful diplomatic process.
The world recently stood by and supported China during the Olympics – a nation whose human rights policy is deplorable – Not to mention what’s happening in Dar-fur and Tibet, to name a couple other issue’s that our present Leaders are not taking a stand on.
We need people in our government who are willing to bring these important issues to the table and to keep it on the table until a workable solution is found. If elected on Oct. 14 – I give you my word – I will work to bring these issues to the table and keep them there!
I believe Robert we have a lot of work to do. Past governments have either turned a blind eye or have paid lip service to the issue’s without follow through. I further believe The Green Party is the only party who will engage Nations to bring about a middle east solution that works for the People of Israel and Palestine.
We need a political party and leaders who are courageous will stand up and tackle these tough issues – I am convinced The Green Party of Canada is the party to do just that and I believe Elizabeth May is the Leader to bring change about!
The Green Party believes in grassroots participation in government. I invite you to join us on October 14th – Vote for Tomorrow – Vote for Change – Vote The Green Party of Canada!
I hope this answer’s your question Robert. Thanks for participating in the political process!!
Sincerely,
Wendy Walker
Candidate Edmonton Spruce-Grove
Green Party of Canada
Press release from Green Party re this controversy:
Contrary to rumours circulating on the internet, Elizabeth May, Leader of the Green Party of Canada did not appear at a Hezbollah event two years ago.
August 12, 2006, Ms. May did speak at a peace rally in Toronto along with Jewish and Arab Canadians to call for an end to the violence then raging in the Middle East.
In her remarks she strongly condemned Hezbollah for launching rocket attacks in to Israel as well as Israel for the bombing of Lebanon.
The Green Party of Canada supports peaceful resolution acceptable to all parties in the Middle East.
We live in a free country and if supporters of Hezbollah wish to be present at a legal assembly that is their right. The coincidence of Elizabeth May being present at the same time and place and supporting an end to violence can not be interpreted as supporting Hezbollah.
Here is our full policy statement on the middle east:
The Israel – Palestine Conflict
The conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians is often viewed as intractable and irresolvable. More than three regional wars and two Intifadas have left deep scars on the bodies and in the minds of the people of this troubled region. Strongly held views and historical claims are well entrenched on both sides, making this a complex and crucial conflict to understand. It is an unfortunate and continued source of tension for many in the Middle East and around the world.
It should be clear that continued support and use of military or insurgency strategies will not bring about an end to the conflict. The cycle of violence, loss of life and desecration of human rights must no longer be allowed to continue.
Our Vision
The Green Party of Canada believes that any effort aimed only at one side in this conflict will not end the violent responses that exacerbate human suffering. Canada’s role in the Middle East should be to reduce tensions, find working solutions and uphold international humanitarian law, not to take sides in this chronic conflict. We must work towards a mutually acceptable compromise that will achieve a lasting peace between, and among, the Israelis and Palestinians.
The Green Party supports a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict that addresses the security, economic, and religious concerns of the both sides.
Second-track diplomatic efforts to build constructive relationships between the two communities are required. Continued dialogue will build community support for the negotiated peace agreement, and will ease implementation and ensure that it does not break down from pressures within the Palestinian and Israeli communities.
Green Party MPs will:
* Support a two-state solution to the Israel- Palestine conflict that adheres to pre-1967 borders and also seeks to incorporate an international plan for stimulating economic prosperity in both nations.
* Call on both sides to immediately stop the killing of civilians and adhere to international law.
* Encourage the Canadian government to press for a mutually agreed upon honest broker to engage in bi-literal and multi-lateral peace talks involving Palestinians and Israelis.
* Call on Arab countries to use their influence to broker an agreement between Hamas and the Palestinian National Authority to facilitate the promotion of peace amongst the competing Palestinian interests.
* Call for an end to the collective siege of Gaza so that medical and humanitarian aid can be provided.
* Actively support the efforts of civil society groups working for peace, human rights, and justice in the region.
All of our policies can be found at http://www.greenparty.ca/visiongreen.
I hope that addresses your concerns.
Doug Anderson
Green Party candidate
Whitby-Oshawa riding
Mr. Jago
The major theme of the Green Party of Canada and the Global Green Chart is Peace on Earth and all living life on it.
There is a Green Party in Israel and I suggest you talk to the leader to answer your question.
What this Planet really needs is Peace. All Human need to cultivate Peace in their Heart.
If the Hezbollah was at a peace rallye it is probably because they seek peace.
Thank you
Lynette Tremblay
Green Party Canada
Ahuntsic
can you please refer to the recent GPC press release
http://greenparty.ca/en/releases/23.09.2008
In particular her statements summarized by “In her remarks she strongly condemned Hezbollah for launching rocket attacks in to Israel as well as Israel for the bombing of Lebanon.”
I have met and spoken with Elizabeth. I find it inconceivable that she is a Hezbollah supporter.
I am profoundly against the use of violence to achieve political ends. Period.
Does this address your question adequately?
Eric Donovan Calgary Centre-North
There are two separate lines of reasoning that are important to keep in mind in responding to your questions. The first is that Hezbollah is recognized as a terrorist organization by the Canadian government and most Canadians, myself included.
The second point however is about condemnation of those who disagree. I do not think it is a politician’s duty to condemn fellow Canadians for expressing a political opinion, however unpleasant or odious that opinion may be. I don’t share a positive opinion of Hezbollah, but I will not condemn a group of people simply for holding an objectionable opinion. Offering money or material support to an organization the Canadian government has recognized as a terrorist organization is a criminal offense and as such I condemn those actions. As for Ms. May’s actions, I won’t comment, because I am not Ms. May, and I was not at the peace rally in question.
Michael Munday
Green Party of Canada, Halifax West
You probably realize that our leader has little or no control over who attends speaking engagements.
Just yesterday Mr. Harper had to contend with GreenPeace here is Edm.
I support Israel and lived in a kibbutz for a big portion of 1974.
However, it is time for Israel to acknowledge the existence of it’s Arab population and share the land.
djp
David J Parker – Edmonton Centre
Thank you for this email, which I understand has been sent to many other Green candidates.
Two of the things that Canadians are very privileged to enjoy as actual rights are freedom of speech and freedom of association. They have the gift of being able to enjoy those peacefully. The responsibility that comes with that is ensuring no hate speech / harm.
It would seem that these supporters exercised poor judgment in attending this peace rally, but they certainly met their goal of being hear and noticed.
My personal stance has always been, “I may not like what you say or believe, but I support your right to think and speak your mind as long as what you say does not harm”.
This was a peace rally, and Ms May’s attendance makes complete sense in light of The Green Party’s core values of non-violence and social justice. Hezbollah supporters were obviously there in the same space speaking their minds, even though it is indeed bizarre and affronting that they would be there in support of a group and its leader who are distinctly not valuing peace. They have that right in our free country. I am simply unsure as to whether what the supporters there were doing can be constituted as direct hate speech against Jews. I can see how it is interpretable as such, but as I was not there to see it or feel it I cannot judge that moment. I mean that sincerely–I am just not sure since I was not there to form a firm opinion.
Just because they were in the same space does not mean there is a connection between her presence and theirs.
Finally, the Green Party is a truly democratic party in that its members are not whipped regarding the party line. In keeping with that, I cannot say one way or the other whether Ms. May should have condemned their presence. She made the choice she did.
Freedom of speech and what you call a politician’s duty to condemn supporters wherever they are found….a weighty balance.
I can tell you this–if I were there I would have asked why they are choosing this event to make an unpeacable statement. I would tell them that they are skirting awfully close to hate speech territory and the laws that are in place for that.
[updated]
Apparently Ms May has prepared a formal statement that notes she condemned Hezbollah firing missiles at Isreal.
Nina Erfani Edmonton-Sherwood Park
Since I can’t answer for someone else I’ve included a link to the article by Elizabeth May on the topic you mention.
http://greenparty.ca/en/releases/23.09.2008
Not having been at the rally I am unable to comment on what happened there. Naturally I cannot support any nation, organization or individual that condones violence as a means to an end.
Regards,
Rod Brindamour Port Moody – Westwood – Port Coquitlam
Elizabeth cleared that up. See: http://www.greenparty.ca/en/releases/23.09.2008
Huguette Allen, Green Party MP Candidate, Okanagan Shuswap Riding
GPC critic, Industry & Small Business
Phone: 250.547.0272 cell: 250.309.5973
www.OkShuswapGreens.ca
Huguette Allen – Okanagan Shuswap
I do not condemn Canadians, I will work with all of them to ensure peace on earth. I do not support war going on in any part of the world and if elected would vote against acts of war and retaliation. An eye for an eye results in vision loss for both sides. I support Ms. May and her position on Hezbollah.
MICHAEL WOLFE B.Ed. B.Sc.
Green Party of Canada MP Candidate for Richmond
RITE City Council Candidate for Richmond
Green Party of BC MLA Candidate for Richmond East
I am upset and concerned at both the Hezbollah’s behaviour and the behaviour of the state of Israel.
Both Hezbollah and Israel have committed numerous atrocities against civilians. Both parties show no respect for international law.
I am a little miffed that you used the term “Jewish Canadians” in your post to me. It presupposes that international Judaism and Zionism are the same as you quickly follow up on “the extermination of the Jewish state” comment. It is wrong for you to make this supposition. I see the media do it all the time and it upsets me. Judaism is one of the world’s oldest religions. We gain much wisdom from its teachings. Judaism is a positive force in the world. Zionism is a completely different bird. Do not equate the two.
As per the Hezbollah and the Zionists. They are birds of the same feather.
They both will get no respect from me.
kind regards,
Jean-Pierre Ducasse – Saskatoon-Humboldt
Wow. About the best I can say of these folks is they are amazingly naive and ill informed. There was one there who appears to have Hezbollah confused with Hamas.
Lizzie May has some work cut out for her. If her minions are this divorced from the reality, it reflects very badly on her chances of convincing the voting public to take their principal raison d’etre seriously.
Louise
September 26, 2008 at 2:35 am
Louise, you’re spot on. So is this guy: Andre Papadimitriou – York South Weston – first one on the list. The Green Party is not ready for Prime Time.
Robert
September 26, 2008 at 2:50 am
Wow!
I admire you doing your ‘homework’ so thoroughly on this! Thank you!
xanthippa
September 26, 2008 at 5:40 am
So we have witnessed a “shoots self in own foot” process in the recent hubbub about being allowed into the debates and being taken seriously as a party. The scary part is the number of members the party claims to have. Are there that many people in this county who are so removed from reality?
Louise
September 26, 2008 at 6:48 pm
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What is disturbing to me is seeing a former high ranking officer in the Canadian forces being so out of touch with reality.
Political career officer indeed.No doubt he owes his seniority to the Liberals and their policies of promoting leftist minded officers to higher rank.
Kursk
October 6, 2008 at 8:43 am
I’m quite interested in what you are trying to achieve by this website. Write and tell me.
Actually, I have no trouble with saying I think Hezbolla is a terrorist organisation. However, there are many people in destitute situations in Lebanon who are supplied with food, shelter and education by outreach arms of Hezbollah and this many who see them not as terrorists but saviours.
The basic premise of your poll seems to be too simple for me. Of course Hezbollah is a terrorist organisation but it takes advantage of the poverty and lack of enfranchisement of a group of people. Your question assumes that one side of a situation is good and the other is bad. If the Mideast was so simple, the problems there would not be so intractable.
Also, don’t you know how many of these form e-mails a candidate gets every day? It is simply not in anyone’s best interest to give you guys the time of day. If your really did care and were not just looking for a cheap way to make a point, you really would have phoned and talked to me.
But, alas, cheap and easy is the way to play a sleazy game. There is more to philosophy that group e-mailing questions.
Respectfully,
William Munsey
Green Candidate for Vergreville-Wainwright
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